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defibrillate ([personal profile] defibrillate) wrote2011-08-23 03:33 pm

Men's magazines

...are not boring (generally), which is more than I can say for most magazines targeted to women (which is sad). And you know what? The amount of naked/almost naked women in them doesn't offend me as much as the fact that there aren't naked men in women's magazines. Women get objectified a lot, sure. But most of the time when I pick up a magazine targeted to dudes, there's as much 'be good enough to win the approval of women' content in it as there is 'be good enough to win the approval of men' content in magazines targeted to chicks. I think the thing that would actually tip the scales to equal or close-to-equal in this corner of media is, in fact, equality in nudity. And I bet sales would skyrocket for anyone willing to pioneer the idea.

Well, one other thing, actually: There is a TON of content in many men's magazines devoted to learning to do things dudes haven't traditionally done for themselves, like cooking. Why, in women's magazines, are there not articles on things like how to change your car's oil? Diminishing the idea of gender roles is pretty important, imo, so how about some media support?

Maybe I should write some letters about this.
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2011-08-24 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I wish more magazines thought like you. There's also the huge "How to win a woman" aspect in men's magazines I'd love to see gone. The wording in Cosmo is so different than the wording in a men's mag.

Somewhere out there, someone got the idea that a naked man was scary. So no one puts them on magazines
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2011-08-24 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"The difference in voice/wording in men's versus women's magazines really bugs me too :/ It seems like, in most women's magazines, sounding opinionated about anything is taboo. Plus, I've never seen a swear word in a women's magazine, but I do see them in men's magazines. I understand that there's a culture to appeal to and that every magazine has its target market, but it feels to me like there's a huge amount of censorship of anything not strictly 'ladylike.' "



QUOTED FOR TRUTH GOD

I think the naked men thing stems from the idea that men "cannot control themselves" and thus women must "cover up". The idea that women are the gatekeepers of purity makes "nudity" itself strange. Men can be naked in MEN space, and doing MAN things, but women cannot ever casually enjoy it because it's "letting their guard down" or something, maybe? Gender studies isn't something I'm REALLY up on, but I usually get the gist. The reason homosexuality is so "dangerous" is because of this idea that women's bodies are not available whenever a man wants them and that it is suddenly expected occasionally for a MAN's body to be available.

I agree again. Men feel entitled to a woman's sexuality. As a gay woman I get very personal questions about my sex life from mostly men. And they get upset when I decline to answer.
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I hope this makes sense!

[personal profile] novel_machinist 2011-08-28 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh totally agreed. I think that the idea of "chivalry" is so rooted in misogyny that it's nearly inseparable. Women are charged with not only bowing to chivalry but being the gatekeepers of purity (But not when the white knight expects us to panty drop)

The objectification of men is something that's talked about a lot in sexuality circles. I think that a lot of society is so entrenched in who the cis gendered straight male sexualizes (different than sexuality) that it's an affront to deviate from the norm.

My girlfriend said it best once, she doesn't like it when people hit on her after she tells them she is gay or committed because that puts their sexualization of HER over her sexuality.

And to the straight male that is tipping their power balance. How dare someone ignore THEIR sexuality?! They don't WANT that attention.

Yet they do that to women daily.

Homophobia also displays this societies hatred of the "feminine". A documentary that you may like is called "Beautiful Daughters" it's about Male to Female transgendered people and the comment was made there that they were not assaulted because of their sex, but it was their femininity that was being assaulted. To be female is the crime.

Self evaluation can only go so far. We have to stop this idea that something being "girly" is "bad". It's a hard fight to do, but there are a lot more of us yelling it than there were even five years ago.
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2011-09-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're so right and that's why it's so hard to fight. Sexism isn't really out in our faces every day anymore. It's subversive. Not including a female coworker because you KNOW she "wouldn't like X" or assuming someone does Y job.

The male "ownership" of the female body is still so, SO frustrating. Did you know that if you were married and 24 and wanted to get sterilized in some states they would WANT YOUR HUSBAND'S PERMISSION?

I've found the best way to combat this is to be engaged. "Why did you say that?" or "what makes you think that?" Questioning the thought process usually comes off as less like what most think of ask "attacking".

And don't get me started on the tech industry. My never ending battle. :/